Carebear Psychology: Parental Abuse
A quick post. I've been noticing a recurring theme as I've continued in my griefing career: Smacktalk that includes implications that the griefer is the victim of parental abuse. Tonight I was salvaging from a carebear named Stardigit when he posted the following:
Stardigit > little motherfucker
Stardigit > i wondering wher the fuckers like born
Stardigit > u dont
Paul Clavet > You're not too great at complete sentences
Stardigit > w8 here ill come back to u
Stardigit > like u and ur famile sucker
Paul Clavet > Whatever that means.
Paul Clavet > I'm still the guy who is going to take your mission item
Stardigit > i wish u luck
Stardigit > u know if i have a power to be in ur place ur mother dont recognise u after meeting with
Paul Clavet > What do you mean?
Stardigit > rest of ur life prbably ull spent in hospital tahts what i mean
Paul Clavet > Are you threatening me?
Stardigit > realy i dont like ppl like u in eve and in real life
Stardigit > nope
Stardigit > or maybe just cancel the mission .... this is good idea
Paul Clavet > Sure, that'd be fine by me :-D
Stardigit > little poor boy whos father beat him allways when he see him
Last week when I convinced Graaatch to give me his Orca before I killed his Golem, he shared a similar sentiment:
Graaatch > yea…get bent pizza face…try not to get raped by daddy tonight
Someone with more education in psychology and behavioral science, please chime in and help me understand. What's the end-game for these carebears? Are they banking on the griefer having been the victim of abuse in the past, such that he curls up into a ball at the evoking of the traumatic memories? Is this the manifestation of childhood trauma involving abuse from the carebear's childhood?
Sure, it's funny, at least as funny as child abuse can be, but it's also very interesting. I like to think that in my work in Eve I tend to see people at their most base state, and I've got to wonder if we're dealing with an in ira veritas (in anger [there is] truth) situation. What are your thoughts on this recurring tear-theme?
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It's weird how people get horribly owned, then ridicule the victor. I guess EVE carebears are just sore losers. I hope they don't act this way when people beat them in a real-life competition.
People who can't handle Internet defeat should go find a different game.
Nah, you're completely wrong. They are furious and they use the most shameful words that there could be: either your/your family death, or sexual (especially homosexual) abuse.
On the other note, it is suprising for me how you could not see from the 'carebears' perspective. As far as I see them, these people login from time to time to play a game - run missions, hoard cash, train skills for next shiny big ship. However boring it may seem for you, other people perspective is totally different.
I think there was a article somewhere that a lot of MMO players actually play their MMOs as single player games. Thus they see ninja as a thief and react accordingly.
If someone was stealing your car while you are watching and there is nothing you could do, how would you react? Smile and clap?
Car != golem / drake / myrmidon / other_internet_spaceship.
I would have to agree with Logrim. Carebears play the game differently than you do. They also see the game differently. I think that they view ships and missions as personal, and you doing what you do is an invasion of personal space and privacy. Thus, they only they can do (quite literally, if their ship is popped), is insult you in the gravest manner they know how.
They're just trying to find your red button to make you as mad as they are about their loss. And as you're asking for kitchen psychology: If I was to find a person's red button I'd possibly try a subject very close to my own red button, you know, people are not that different.
But honestly: Eve is a game and I'm trying not to push people to much. When I find someone takes a ship loss pretty hard I won't tease him.
Interesting responses from the carebears - especially those who throw incomplete sentences at you; most annoying at least to me.
I doubt there is any 'in truth there is anger' moments; they're just pissed and they're trying to (by the force of their imagination) to get you into a situation that would most please them and is proportional to the crime you just committed. If this involves being abused by your dad - then away you go.
I'd have to agree with Sobczynsk on this one that the missioners are trying desperately to find something that would cause you to feel what they are feeling.
When someone feels wronged, it's very natural for them to attempt to bring attacker at or below their own level of misery. In many cases, this combined with the strong emotions of having lost their ship and fitings can result in some very interesting insults. My guess on the parental abuse is that it's largely the most insulting, painful thing they can come up with at that moment and they're hoping it'll hit a nerve.
It doesn't cost them any resources to lob the insult, and HAD you been an victim of abuse then it would be a rather painful thing to hear. No cost vs potentially high reward on their end.
not as funny as that child abuse website,
at these levels of child abuse, even people who are not children will have to worry in a few years because soon they are going to run out of children!
oh yeah and I'm loving the blog mate, tres awsome ;)
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My first random though while reading this post was: "Is this person so irate that it is effecting his cognitive and typing skills?" If so, this person should seek help immediately.
After I finished reading, I thought back to the people I have either known IRL or interacted with through games. Generally speaking, people tend to accuse others of things they are guilty of, either to force blame off on other or in an attempt satisfy their sub-conscious by making themselves believe that others do exactly as they do. These situations, that our good friend Paul Clavet tends to find himself in, may not be entirely different.
That being said, these individuals are substituting their success in a game for their failures in real life. The game becomes their “happy place”; when life is good in the game, they feel like it off sets something that is lacking in their lives. When life is bad in the game they feel personally violated, even if no other living player was involved.
This is by no means a way to condone the actions of these players; this is in actuality a warning to such players that they need to GTFO and accept what you have and look for ways to actually apply meaning; to find something that has a reward that won’t disappear is a server blows up. And above all else; EvE is a game where the tactics that Paul and his fellow Jerks employ are 100% legitimate; and personal physical and mental threats are not. Such conversations can get your account band and then, you’ve lost the only thing that ever make you happy; which would be sad in a pathetic sort of way.
My fav of all time it "I hope you live to see your children die!"
This after losing a caracal.