NinjaFleet TearOp Report, July 3, 2009
Also titled: Don't shoot at NinjaFleet.
Also titled: Don't make RL threats on Eve.
Also titled: NinjaFleet gets rich.
I'll keep this short and sweet, because it's very late and I'm tired.
We had our regularly-scheduled TearOp. Just with normal loot and salvage it was a success with over 120 million ISK raised.
But we also popped two missionrunners.
Here are their stories.
Kimdir learns a valuable lesson: Don't shoot at Ninjafleet.
So we're all salvaging along, some of us looting, when Kimdir gets uppity and takes a potshot at Michella. Now, Michella has only been a member for about three days, but has been playing Eve since 2004. Michella bugs out and returns with a Drake. She puts a point on the missionrunner and blows her Dominix to smithereens. The killboard link is here for your viewing pleasure. Note the very nice and very expensive Gallente Navy Neutron Blaster Cannon that dropped.
Anton Tetravus learns many valuable lessons, most of them fatal.
So at this point, our night is made. I even consider turning in for the evening, but I'm talked out of it by NinjaFleet members.
Soon, we're salvaging and looting the field of one Anton Tetravus, in a very expensive and rare battleship called a Caldari Navy Raven. He too gets uppity, and takes a shot at Emizeko Chai. Now, Emizeko is a relative newbie, and she's not actually a member of TEARS yet, just a friend who started hanging out in Ninja Alliance chat and coming along on salvage ops. Her only pew ship is a Thorax cruiser. Even with good Remote-Repair support available, I am not optimistic as she darts off to get her little blaster boat.
Figuring he must be onto something if he got Emziko to run, Anton Tetravus also takes a pot shot at Velocity Prime, CEO of Suddenly Ninjas. Now, Velocity Prime is experienced in the way of the pew, and well-equipped for it. Besides, I heard a rumor that he's a former marine commando and can kill a man with a blade of grass. Prime docks up and comes out with an Abaddon battleship.
Emizeko warps in first, warp scrambles the Caldari Navy Raven, and immediately starts getting shredded. The remote-repair ship flown by Aegamaeous comes in right behind her, healing the rifts in her small hull as they are formed by the missiles from the CNR. It's going very, very slowly. The cruiser simply will not be able to break the shields of the CNR. Velocity Prime arrives in his battleship and starts dumping large laser fire into the faction ship.
It takes a little while. Figuring that the ship alone is worth over 400 million ISK, I convo Anton Tetravus and offer him a way out.
Anton Tetravus > Yes?
Paul Clavet > 500M for your ship
Anton Tetravus > I don't have that much money.
Paul Clavet > how unfortunate
Anton Tetravus > And you started this in high sex.
Anton Tetravus > sec*
Paul Clavet > How much do you have?
Anton Tetravus > 145 mill.
Paul Clavet > Come up with the money soon I guess
Paul Clavet > Or eject :-D
Anton Tetravus > Look, just stop shooting, dude. You started it.
Anton Tetravus > Don't be an ass.
Paul Clavet > No, you shot at a ninja
Paul Clavet > So you lose your ship
Anton Tetravus > He went hostile on me.
Paul Clavet > unless you pay 500M
Paul Clavet > Get it from corpies, whatever
Anton Tetravus > Look, ceasefire and I will attempt to get money.
Paul Clavet > You have 30 seconds
Anton Tetravus > Please.
Anton Tetravus > I need more time.
Paul Clavet > clock's ticking
Anton Tetravus > What part of I need more time do you not understand?
Paul Clavet > Eject, you'll get your ship back
Paul Clavet > we keep the modules
Paul Clavet > otherwise it all dies
Anton Tetravus > No.
Paul Clavet > Nope, you're dead
Paul Clavet > Sorry we couldn't come to an agreement
Anton Tetravus > Goddammit, two minutes>
(Pop goes the CNR.)
Paul Clavet > Terribly sorry.
Paul Clavet > Don't shoot at ninjas next time
Anton Tetravus > You're a reall asshole, shitstain.
Paul Clavet > Your tears sustain me
Anton Tetravus > I don't get vengeance on Eve, trust me. I have better ways.
Paul Clavet > What are you saying?
(His last statement wasn't clear enough to get the ban stick.)
Anton Tetravus > Heh, you'll see. It's always more fun to fuck with real life than virtual.
(Bingo!)
Anton Tetravus > See ya.
Paul Clavet > Enjoy your ban
Anton Tetravus > enjoy your empty bank account.
Paul Clavet > LOL
Paul Clavet > By the way, I'm blogging this
Paul Clavet > mylootyourtears.com
Anton Tetravus > :-) I'd suggest cancelling the credit card you use to pay for eve within the next six hours.
Paul Clavet > ROFL
Paul Clavet > have fun
Anton Tetravus > Oh dude, you have no idea.
Paul Clavet > I believe I do
Paul Clavet > You're so angry, especially now since you're going to get a ban
Anton Tetravus > No, not angry, just aggrieved. That's more fun.
Now, folks. Don't do this. Don't ever do this. Eve is a game. I do some pretty terrible things to people in the game universe of Eve Online, and hosting a blog where I publicly mock them is one of those things. CCP has stated that everything I do is "within bounds" of play, and I can't get in trouble for it. Threatening real crimes in the real world, though? That's a line that you must not ever cross. I'm told by my corpies that a threat like this pretty much rates an account-level ban of the player. This means that their characters, I'm told, will be wiped from the face of the Eve universe as if they never existed, their fields salted, etc.
Besides, if you're going to make threats, do it with a name that can't be easily traced back to your real name and hometown with Google. That's all I'm going to say about that.
Anyway, here's the kill mail. Note the very, very, exceedingly, stupidly, redonkulously expensive faction fittings.
Yeah. Totaling everything up, we pulled approximately 1,247,350,000 ISK during that three-hour op. Excluding me (I never take a cut) each of the 10 players will receive over 100,000,000 ISK each, plus special bonuses for those whose combat efforts made such numbers possible in the first place.
It's a good day to be a ninja.
It's a bad day to be an overaggressive dolt of a missionrunner.
Dear Paul -
I would like to apologize very much for the decidedly unfriendly and certain unprofessional conversation you had last night with my character on Eve, not to mention the hostilities. The explanation requires a bit of a story, and you may not believe it, this being the internet, but here goes -
My wife recently came into some money and bought me a gift in the form of several Eve Plexes, which I cashed and spent on those expensive fittings you saw. I was having a small party with friends from work at my home last night and made the mistake of bragging to my friend Frank about the newly upgraded CNR that you saw. He's a long-time WoW player and gamer in general and quit Eve after trying it several times because of inability to level-up fast like in WoW. He wanted to try flying the von Spee (my battleship) so I logged in, set him up on a mission, and went back to be with my other friends in the living room. Frank was having a few drinks but was not exactly drunk when I left him.
You can imagine how pissed off I was when Frank half-stumbles back into the living room and announces that my battleship is no more. Frank is one of the most coherent drunk people I know, but he also has an ego the size of a house and happens to be an aspiring blackhat (meaning a hacker, if you didn't know). In other words, even though it was my ship, a long time gamer like Frank was really pissed off at the fact that he couldn't win the battle against your fleet (he didn't understand the hostility rules, warp scrambling, and the salvaging quirk) and began saying some really stupid things, which I had the chance to read before I kicked him the hell out of my room and logged off.
Eve has been a frustrating experience in the past when I've gotten blown up myself, and I'd let others try out the game previously with no issues. Obviously, this is a whole other level. Again, I'm truly sorry that this happened. While I don't want my account to get banned, obviously, I'm more concerned about my reputation, because I'd like to think I would never say retarded things like he did. If you feel the need to report my account, I understand. If you are feeling generous, that would be awesome and perhaps we can work together under better circumstances in the future.
Matt,
Your story, while elaborate, is BS. I wasn't going to post these, but I wanted to make sure that nobody took pity on you.
http://gripe.fredrickville.com/attachments/3743-1.htm
http://gripe.fredrickville.com/view.php?num=797
In both links, you are documented as threatening people with RL harm when things don't go your way. In one of them, someone presents a name which matches the name you give in your email address today.
If you make further threats or attempt to gain pity in this thread or any other forum, I will dig further, until I can reach authorities who can hold you accountable for your pattern of threats.
Dear Paul -
Those attachment you post are mine. They were made five years ago when I was an idiot in high school. Having graduated from college and gotten married since, I've grown up considerably. I'm sorry you don't believe me, but I'm not surprised, since it's the internet. I will not contact you further, and I'm sorry for the trouble.
Matt-
Thank you for admitting account sharing on top of everything else I'm sure CCP will take that into account when dealing with you.
Atari
This has to be one of the best ninja episodes yet. CNR death, threats of RL violence, and account sharing (still sounds like BS to me).
And almost 2 billion in loot. I love it. Good job Paul!
Paul: You need to post the comment you got from this guy's CEO, too.
This is friggin amazing. This blog post got me to read more about the Way of Salvaging and your corp, and now I'm fairly set on applying.
You guys rock so much, I don't even have words for it =)
Ha, this is pretty epic. Makes me wish I was in the corp.
Very nice post. As much as I don't exactly like ninja's, they do provide some good humor.
Anton was not only flying what he couldn't replace, but he let a complete and utter newb fly it. If anything you should have given him a BC or something cheaper and run L3's.
Congrats on the kill Ninja's.
OMG!? That compliment came from a carebear (ish) guy!?
Wow, that is pretty messed up, I lost my olny Domi the same way a few weeks back. I cried myself to sleep :(
anyhow i'd just like to say what you do its kida cheap, why don't you run your own missions, or go out to 0.0 to find some real fights.
Killing poor lil Bears in their nice newby ravens is'int much of a challenge.
and although its within the rules, i find its really just a grief tactic, for people who cant stand loosing at something.
Again that's just my humble opinion
fly safe
<3
I occasionally run mission, and goto nullspace, and have fought my fair share of "real fights" if by real fights you mean assjams. But rolling carebears is just much more rewarding. But if you want to send us mail ingame, I'm sure we can meet you out in nullspace to satisfy your request.
HAN SHOT FIRST.
I love it, tards that do incredibly stupid things in game, pay for their stupidity, and cry about it is why I play Eve. Obvious BS that it was his "friend" who did it all. That is just a river of tears to bath in. Nice work!
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tbh matt was trying 2 say sorry and you are being douchs over a online game I mean damn and 2 bring up shit that happend in his past do you have a life or just go looking around in other ppls?
kenny:
Your tears sustain me.
So I blow up someone's ship in an online game, then they proceed to make real-life threats, then I proceed to arm myself with information about threats they have made to other people over the years (for forwarding to law enforcement in case of further incident), and *I* am the douche?
If that's being a douchebag, then you can count me in!
One of your members clued me in to you guys. I admit, my knee-jerk reaction pretty much amounted to, "Jeez, what a bunch of freakin' sociopaths! Don't you know that is Not Nice what they do??"
But then I started reading this blog and gave a solo salvage run a serious try.
And I stand corrected! You ninjas have got some serious class, your work is engaging and rewarding, and you seem to have a lot of fun. I'm looking forward to dropping in on your chat sometime to say hi.
I used to think this stuff was hilarious, not so much anymore. Everyone should be able to enjoy Eve, and surely someone running missions in a faction fitted faction ship REALLY enjoys the game. So what if he is a dumb ass, you are actively soliciting this response, I don't know how you can feel good about it. It's not clever, your like grade school bullies laughing at the crying kid. Boring. CCP does not endorse this behavior, I'm sure they would rather have their paying player, but they have to cover their asses so they go along with your garbage. Blow his ship up, yeah, get some tears, yeah, but getting someone banned from the game? That's heartless and shameful. Hope your happy.
So Eve Player, let me get this straight.
Someone threatens me with real-life harm, I report their threat, and *I* am the shameful one?
OK then, just checking. By the way, your tears sustain me.
Give me a break, do you really believe this guy is going to come hunt you down in real life? Come one man, this is internet bravado spurred by your tear-hunting. There is nothing you want more than to have someone threaten you so you can have them banned and have something to blog about. Then you start obsessively searching the internet for this guy to further embarrass him , jesus why don't you go and call the authorities and explain to them about how you blew up his spaceship and he's threatening to hunt you down, will give them a good laugh. This guy apologized to you, give it a break already and let him enjoy the game. Your the only one crying, crying about a threat in the game. Not only that your crying to the developers, wah wah wah, and you threaten to cry to the authorities. _YOUR_ tears sustain _ME_!
Paul Clavet
tbh m8 blow who every you want up I am a pirate in eve and if they make RL threats then report em but if they say sorry and you are still being a douch and digg up more shit do you really have nothing better 2 do?
p.s your tears sustain me is just fail just giveing you a head up :)