Bruce Schneier on Societal Security
Sorry for When-RL-Invades post, but in my exploration of corporate infiltration in Eve I've given a lot of thought to security and trust models. Particularly, I'm interested in how the differences in identity and scarcity in Eve from identity and scarcity in the real world modify behavior. I've always liked Bruce Schneier's blog, but today he posted a teaser for his new book.
In a primitive society, informal systems are generally good enough. When you're living in a small community, and objects are both scarce and hard to make, it's pretty easy to deal with the problem of theft. If Alice loses a bowl, and at the same time, Bob shows up with an identical bowl, everyone knows Bob stole it from Alice, and the community can then punish Bob as it sees fit. But as communities get larger, as social ties weaken and anonymity increases, this informal system of theft prevention -- detection and punishment leading to deterrence -- fails. As communities get more technological and as the things people might want to steal get more interchangeable and harder to identify, it also fails. In short, as our ancestors made the move from small family groups to larger groups of unrelated families, and then to a modern form of society, the informal societal security systems started failing and more formal systems had to be invented to take their place. We needed to put license plates on cars and audit people's tax returns.
We had no choice. Anything larger than a very primitive society couldn't exist without societal security.
I'll be very interested in the release of this work, and if you're reading this blog and are entertained by thoughts of what makes the ethical landscape of Eve so compelling, you might be interested as well.
yawn..... Im Paul Clavet look at me
Fucking gingers.
I personally think this would be rather interesting to read, especially when applying the concepts to things like corporate/alliance theft and ninja looting/salvaging in EVE. I'll keep an eye out for it.
kiss kiss thats the sound of you and clavets rear
Show us on the dolly where the bad man touched you, ginger.
lol i think you maybe a clavet alt. Look at me mommy im a ninja weeeeee.......
It's ok ginger, the bad man won't hurt you anymore.
Yes thats the standard response it seems mildly funny first time like 1 year ago.
anyway paul/planetary i see you have come back into the fold like i always thought you would
wow bro velocity prime, paul alt he aint vp is an entirly different ninja vp is the ceo of misfit toys
its ok ninjas i understand you can dec my one man corp breakfast club anytime you like
I love how we get tears even on posts only vaguely related to Eve.
I like how he thinks i"m a Paul alt. I wish I were a Paul alt, I'd be richer and more successful.
By the way, nice job on the mining corp heist. Good reading.
Thank you sir. Paul commented as I was adding posts of tears to the blog, so idk if you've all seen it yet. Either way, I need to roll an alt character for this kind of thing now, my corp history's getting too long.
It's interesting because most MMO's are about forming social relationship which requires trust. Whereas EVE punishes you for being overly trusting. Its a dynamic that most players don't seem to grasp as shown by the repeated successes of Clavet, JERKS, Misfit Toys. It speaks to how difficult it is to overcome our basic imperatives as hominids.
what a load of shit. so now you lot are intellectuals. Get a grip. Im paul clavet look at me look at me damn it....
U mad bro? Wai u mad?
Just curious, is the ninja alliance channel open for anyone or is it for SN and TEAR members only ?
Yeah, it's open to anyone, last I knew. You'll find many ex-members of SN and those who are interested in the same type of play in the channel.
Is Paul 'God damn' Clavet the new Chuck Norris discuss
Just wanted to thank khalia and paul for gettin me more onto this game just through their own adventures. Ive started my own blog and as soon as it starts to fill with tears i might even go so far as to mention it =D knowing i can only hope to pale in comparison =p
WTB more blog entries
My god. This may perhaps be one of the best trolls I've ever seen. +<9k internets for you my good sir.